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Thread: Canada's David Langguth: New Video Clip !!

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    So what makes sense as far as solo's go Ben [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] maybe it is a personal taste issue because I cannot handle Neil soloing at all have not for about 20 years now, or Buddy for that matter(talk about wanking, IMO anyway's, it just seemed to be showing off lick's with the hand's as fast as he could much of the time when soloing). Yeah sometimes Virg blows alot of lick's but I find great meaning and direction when he is going from one very SICK and creative Rhythmic groove to another and phrasing over it without the onslaught of too many blazing chops.

    Dig

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    Kirk, I think what ben & many others say about VD is...let's just put it this way.

    He knows where HE's "at." Sometimes he goes firing away right into a chopsfest that tends to sometimes leave guys who are more predisposed to "the musical statement, commentary, & build-up," such as many drummers do, like Ersk or Weck, whereas sometimes Virg just launches into an all-out assault that sounds like a big wall of blazing chops to many folks. He is very advanced in thinking & he does have the chops, so if you aren't listening carefully you may miss where he's going [& even if you ARE! [img]wink.gif[/img] ].

    When I first heard him it was so strange & wonderful, this all out display of sheer power & command...it took me a little while [but not too long!] to settle my ears in to his signature style.

    Sometimes he solos over a many-barred sequenced ostinato or long multi-oddtime phrase & just "does his thing" ["modulation" etc], going for it, so it can be quite the mental onslaught...for all of us! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

    I liked the way someone else once put it...his rhythms & fills seem to expand &/or collapse in on themselves, because of his deep understanding of polyrhythms & moduilation...he can really seem to "sstrretchhhh" a phrase &/or "shrink" it [because of the groupings, time mods, & poly-layered phrases]! I wonder how he did with fractions in school... ;c)

    Even tho I don't listen to NP nor haven't for many yrs now, he still would "tell a story" with his solo. Virg has so many ideas, so many rhythmic twists, so much technique, & can "break it up" so much that you could get quite lost if you're not paying attention to where he's going! He has a LOT of shtuff going on in his head to say. It's often a LOT of notes, so, if you're not into dense, IN your FACE, UP yer axe, & over the top, but prefer less is more, or prefer a musical commentary "build up" [even tho Virg can do this too, but often does not] from sparse to climactic, then Virg is not [usually] your man.

    Some folks get him, & some do not [not saying that Ben doesn't; just maybe he prefers differently]. Often the same reasons I like him is exactly why the next person does NOT.

    I had to give a lot of his sh** a serious 30th listen... [img]wink.gif[/img]

    Buddy's forte was driving a Big Band right up yer archway for sure. There are guys out there now like VC, DW, & Virg who have taken his chops & gone beyond...

    I'm really digging on this Langguth cat. Those vid clips that were posted a while back from the Montreal drumfest were very hip stuff.

    ...& Virgil is, well, Virgil. [img]wink.gif[/img]

    I've beenn turned on to many a great player I hadn't yet heard of prior, such as Langguth, DiCenso, Todd S, Hass, Tribbett, Spears, Moore, Creemers, Carlock, Zach D, Cliff A, etc etc, NTM the regular HOD members that hang here from time to time, thanks to the folks in here...

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ April 08, 2005 11:01 PM: Message edited by: got_a_matchgrip? ]</font>

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    Originally posted by Digital Man:
    So what makes sense as far as solo's go Ben [img]graemlins/hmmm.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] maybe it is a personal taste issue because I cannot handle Neil soloing at all have not for about 20 years now, or Buddy for that matter(talk about wanking, IMO anyway's, it just seemed to be showing off lick's with the hand's as fast as he could much of the time when soloing). Yeah sometimes Virg blows alot of lick's but I find great meaning and direction when he is going from one very SICK and creative Rhythmic groove to another and phrasing over it without the onslaught of too many blazing chops.

    Dig
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's funny, I've seen Buddy and Virgil live and to me Buddy is 100 times the musician Virg could ever hope to be. JMHO. Maybe there's something in Virgil's playing I'm not getting but all I hear are drumset gymnastics, to put it kindly. On the other hand, Buddy is one of the greatest musician I've ever heard . . . on any instrument. Again, JMHO.

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ April 08, 2005 11:34 PM: Message edited by: Henry II ]</font>

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    I get the feeling when Virg solos that there is little thought to structure. It seems like he just pulls licks out of a big bag and plays them. There's no beginning/middle/end to his solos.

    I should have included Max Roach in that list. I could listen to TDalsoW many more times than one of Virg's onslaughts.

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    Amazing - like a cross between Virgil & Dicenso. Such power and a great sound too.

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    Dazzler,

    I think you are right ! I could hear Dave DiCenso's style of playing in Langguth's, but could not pin-point it !

    Hey Tweety... as soon as you know the dat of Dave's clinic in Kingston, please let us know. I'll be there for sure.

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    Originally posted by benrand:
    I get the feeling when Virg solos that there is little thought to structure. It seems like he just pulls licks out of a big bag and plays them. There's no beginning/middle/end to his solos.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You know, you do have a point there. "...no beginning/middle/end to his solos" - I can see how someone might say that on some or much of his stuff. Like i said in my earlier belabored post, someimes Virg is like that. He's full-throttle, & sometimes it seems there's little time to breath & catch phrases or statements in there. Again, see my earlier post above, it's there if you want to decipher all of it ;c). But...give him some time. I've seen him start off slow & build musical satements & not just all-guns-blazing. Where?! you say? "I'll never tellll" [like the seemingly-whacked waif said in that crazy flick]... ;c)

    But much of the stuff he does is just so whack. That means cool. Heh heh, heh heh heh [like that inane cartoon, Beavis & Butthead]...

    Anyway...back to DL...

    <font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ April 10, 2005 03:04 PM: Message edited by: got_a_matchgrip? ]</font>

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    Nice way of putting thing's Got a Match grip I agree with much of what you said. I do think much of what he does is rhythmically to dense for many and therefore is not enjoyable to them, but for my whacked out brain it is beautiful [img]biggrin.gif[/img] I think Virg Groove's his behind off when he solo's but you have to see the WHOLE solo not just the flurries of chops. And Dave L. again is a fantastic player have watched a few more clips of him and I Dig his playing quite abit, would like to see more. Would like also to see him in more of a real fusion setting or setting's.

    Dig

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    Hello all,

    Thank you for posting the video clip of David Langguth. I've been searching for one for awhile.

    To those who are wondering about the clinic in Kingston:

    Centre Stage Music and Taye Drums presents David Langguth at the Princess Court Cinema (next to Stages night club) on May 10th, 2005 at 7:00 pm. Admission is free with a non-perishable donation to the Kingston Food Bank. David will be appearing with a bass player, and a local drummer (me) will open the show with a brief clinic.

    Hope that helps any who are wondering.

    More info at Centre Stage music:
    613.547.2469
    [email protected]

    Thanks,
    K.

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